I think there were Stoics who talked about progress zu eupatheia as to making progress to virtue (Seneca or Epcitetus maybe )
Maybe there were Updates or more practical explanations in the lost works/books of Stoicism. They were so practical in many things, but in others very theoretical, idealizing bu…
I think there were Stoics who talked about progress zu eupatheia as to making progress to virtue (Seneca or Epcitetus maybe )
Maybe there were Updates or more practical explanations in the lost works/books of Stoicism. They were so practical in many things, but in others very theoretical, idealizing but I think it depends on the Stoic Philosopher.
This is a big plus point in Stoic philosophy, that every Stoic has granted himself a certain freedom of interpretation, as Seneca also emphasizes, and this philosophy therefore has space for updates/improvements.
For Epicureanism, I agree that it seems that they have maybe a weakness when it comes to a social-political engagement or for positive social feelings (compassiong, love, charity ...)
But otherwise it would fit to promote them because they were more open to feelings than the other schools.
I think that with "Philia" it is not meant by them to have some few friends but to see it as a virtue like Aristoteles defined it. And there is a teaching that Epicureans should pursue friendship with as many people as possible, if not than just and if this is not possible to avoid them.
And the Epicurean Hermachus was inclined towards the Oikeiosis doctrine. And later Epicureans as Diogenes of Oenanda were very social/philantropic in their attitude.
The same as with the Stoics maybe there would be a more positive picture of Epicureanism if more works/books would have survived.
But in the end the reason for that is in the core (the Epicureans say) "security as a natural desire"
Maybe all the social emotions were built by evolution for survival.... But who wants to here this? : )
It is more romantic to hear social feelings come from a divine realm or order : )
I am looking forward to this book and hope it will give me clarity and perhaps a more positive assessment of this topic:
"Theory and Practice in Epicurean Political Philosophy: Security, Justice and Tranquility"
Massimo, thank you for your response.
I think there were Stoics who talked about progress zu eupatheia as to making progress to virtue (Seneca or Epcitetus maybe )
Maybe there were Updates or more practical explanations in the lost works/books of Stoicism. They were so practical in many things, but in others very theoretical, idealizing but I think it depends on the Stoic Philosopher.
This is a big plus point in Stoic philosophy, that every Stoic has granted himself a certain freedom of interpretation, as Seneca also emphasizes, and this philosophy therefore has space for updates/improvements.
For Epicureanism, I agree that it seems that they have maybe a weakness when it comes to a social-political engagement or for positive social feelings (compassiong, love, charity ...)
But otherwise it would fit to promote them because they were more open to feelings than the other schools.
I think that with "Philia" it is not meant by them to have some few friends but to see it as a virtue like Aristoteles defined it. And there is a teaching that Epicureans should pursue friendship with as many people as possible, if not than just and if this is not possible to avoid them.
And the Epicurean Hermachus was inclined towards the Oikeiosis doctrine. And later Epicureans as Diogenes of Oenanda were very social/philantropic in their attitude.
The same as with the Stoics maybe there would be a more positive picture of Epicureanism if more works/books would have survived.
But in the end the reason for that is in the core (the Epicureans say) "security as a natural desire"
Maybe all the social emotions were built by evolution for survival.... But who wants to here this? : )
It is more romantic to hear social feelings come from a divine realm or order : )
I am looking forward to this book and hope it will give me clarity and perhaps a more positive assessment of this topic:
"Theory and Practice in Epicurean Political Philosophy: Security, Justice and Tranquility"
Javier Aoiz
https://amzn.eu/d/7HyDM4e
I'll check out your posts on the Stoic Sage next. Thank you for these treasures : )